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*weeps* No. Nonononono. What I have feared for so long has finally come true.

Someone's written a horrid NCIS/West Wing crossover. Frightening abuse of punctuation, terrifying characterization...

And Simon Donovan as Jethro Gibbs.

Yeah, you read that correctly. They weren't long-lost brothers, they didn't just look amazingly similar--they are one and the same.

Why? Why must this blight upon my fandom exist?

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raindroproses
Mar. 21st, 2005 09:51 pm (UTC)
Just for you, I forced myself to go back and read the entire first chapter. (A whopping 497 words, but it burned so much the first time through, I couldn't get past the second paragraph.)

The author doesn't bother to explain. I think it's supposed to be the "clever ruse" bit.

I'm seriously tempted to assert my Godly Modly Powerz and delete the chapter due to eye-sporkingly bad grammar and punctuation.
b_cavis
Mar. 22nd, 2005 12:23 am (UTC)
Dude.

Do it.

Didn't we say "No un'beta'd fics allowed"? If you don't want to do it, I'll do it. No reason for you to be the bad guy-- you're the sunshiney one of the three of us. *G*
stef94
Mar. 21st, 2005 10:00 pm (UTC)
She misspelled the title, so I deleted immediately without even opening the email..

I am such a fanfic snob, but when it comes to spelling and grammar, I am merciless.
I managed to learn to speak and write English properly, and it isn't even my native language, so there are no excuses, IMHO anyway ;-)
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 09:21 am (UTC)
Oh but she's disabled!
Clearly that means she can't get somebody to correct her mistakes for her.
I guess the other girl I know with major problems in that area has got some kind of super power that lets her get a beta-reader.

And of course that disablity accounts for the gapping holes in the plot and the bad style, too.
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 09:22 am (UTC)
(yes, I realize that I'm a bitch right now. But when somebody uses their illnesses as their first defense for something like this, I always get bitchy)
stef94
Mar. 22nd, 2005 09:40 pm (UTC)
But her High School teacher said her writing was good! She doesn't need a beta!

And don't worry about the bitchyness, I get bitchy myself when someone does the "but, but, but" thing when it's =obvious= there are no excuses.
Yes, it's a shame that she's handicapped, but =especially= the internet makes most of the hurdles that can throw up a lot lower. Unless one is visually handicapped of course..
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 09:52 pm (UTC)
oh but no! she isn't hiding behind her handicap. And if you say otherwise yuo have no life.
stef94
Mar. 22nd, 2005 10:24 pm (UTC)
Well, I have no life. That is old news ;-)
So I don't feel particularly insulted by that. The fact that the girl can't write her native language properly, =that's= insulting!
And when you know you're dyslexic, you better make =damn sure= you have a beta!

I couldn't even make out what the title of that fic was supposed to be from the way it was mangled up so.frelling.badly.
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 10:27 pm (UTC)
exactly.

and that doesn't even account for the fact that her plot sucks.

just out of curiosity. did anybody but me call her on it?
stef94
Mar. 22nd, 2005 11:05 pm (UTC)
I have no opinion on the plot. I deleted it before it could hurt my braincells any more than that mangled up title already did.. and I don't know enough about West Wing to pick up on plot holes in that direction.. although from what I understand, the holes were so gaping that even I would've been able to spot them..

Well, better get back to work.. looooong day of mayhem still ahead..
_workinprogress
Mar. 21st, 2005 10:01 pm (UTC)
I think somebody actually wrote a good one.

somebody (marine) drops dead near the oval. Gibbs and crew get called in. Awkwardness and basketball games follow.

I'm not sure, but it might have been a slash story...
yup it was. go here to read it. I think Nancy handled it very well. The pairings are CJ/Gibbs, Gibbs/tony and CJ/Danny.
IT's really good.
Come to think of, I should read it again myself.
raindroproses
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:22 pm (UTC)
Dude, that was awesome.

...Now I want to write Sam/Kate fic set in that universe.
_workinprogress
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:28 pm (UTC)
*drool*.

she's got an LJ (well, two). slashy_me and the_tenth_muse
_workinprogress
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:08 pm (UTC)
I'd like to turn myself in
I know the list has a play nice rule. But I just flamed the author of said fic. Well I didn't call her names or anything. But you know, a nasty-sarcastic reply.

Sorry. Well not really for what I wrote. But for breaking your rules.
_workinprogress
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:11 pm (UTC)
Re: I'd like to turn myself in
wanna read before I punish myself and unsub?
raindroproses
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:21 pm (UTC)
Re: I'd like to turn myself in
Nah. I don't really care, as long as it doesn't become an all-out flamewar. :-)
_workinprogress
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:25 pm (UTC)
Re: I'd like to turn myself in
I did send it off-list of course.

I have no problem with sending negative feedback on-list, but that email had no redeeming qualities what so ever. It was insulting without literally being insulting (gotta love sarcasm).

but here I was thinking you had a zero-tolerance policy towards flames.
*shrug*. ok. not gonna test my luck. I'll just go back to lurking.
b_cavis
Mar. 22nd, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)
Re: I'd like to turn myself in
Don't you *DARE* unsub. We need all the ablebodied authors we can get.

It's the only way to combat the darkness. Besides candles.
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 08:48 am (UTC)
Re: I'd like to turn myself in
weeeee!!! I'm an able bodied writer! *happy-dance*

(sorry, got a bruised ego right now. I take all the boosts I can get.)

Hmmm... and just for that I think I have to write a short (v. short) Gibbs/Kate ficlet.
b_cavis
Mar. 22nd, 2005 12:09 am (UTC)
I saw it.

o_O My brain just went *OUCH DON'T HURT ME!* really loudly.

...Do you think we should shoot her?
goodisrelative
Mar. 22nd, 2005 12:20 am (UTC)
AAHHHH! My eyes!
Okay, after loosing what little sight I have left reading that scary story, I have one comment (besides all the grammar/spelling/Simon-Gibbs issues everyone else pointed out.

If she is staying with the current time line in the West Wing for when Simon died and CJ is currently COS, then ah, duh! Kate should A) already KNOW CJ, since she only stopped being on the president's SS detail less than 2 yrs ago and B) ah duh, Kate would have been on the presidential detail when "Simon" was, so she would have known the whole thing.

Anyone else see this massive, how-the-hell-can-you-explain-this issue?

and we won't even mention the OCness of CJ talking to Kate like this!
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 09:18 am (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
*slaps herself*
I realized the Kate&the staffers issue. But damn! How could I have missed the Kate&Simon part!


Hmm.. I guess because I read this other awsome x-over, which was so good it didn't even occur to me to question the plausibility of it.
But yeah. That needs to be explained.
Hmm... maybe Kate wasn't around then.

Oh no. Now I'm trying to make sense of other people's work.
Just shoot me.
goodisrelative
Mar. 22nd, 2005 04:02 pm (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
But Kate was in the SS for 4 years, so she HAD to be around during the Simon thing, at least with merging NCIS into the West Wing timeline that exists.

I am just thinking too much I guess.
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 05:50 pm (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
doesn't mean she had to be in the WW. She could have been on Ellie's or Zoe's detail. Or on some Senator's or something. Ex Presidents etc.
goodisrelative
Mar. 22nd, 2005 07:15 pm (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
No... NCIS said that Kate was on the presidential detail... hence she had clearance on Air Force One in the Pilot ep.
_workinprogress
Mar. 22nd, 2005 07:28 pm (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
yes, but did they say how long she had been on prseidential detail? maybe she switched?
raindroproses
Mar. 22nd, 2005 08:00 pm (UTC)
Re: AAHHHH! My eyes!
The script for "Yankee White" says that Kate's been on the Presidential detail for one year. So:

Beginning of NCIS season 1 = beginning of WW season 5
NCIS season 1 - one year = WW season 4

With a little tweaking of the timeline (we don't know if it was exactly one year), Kate could have joined the Presidential detail just around the end of season three.

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